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There's a lot that was left unsaid in the various sentencing memos for the two Proud Boy Nicks: DeCarlo and Ochs, perhaps appropriate to Ochs' high level access primarily through a chat named after Skull and Bones.

Rugger_9 on November 30, 2022 at 3:03 pm Interesting choice of names by the PBs, since S&B is a society at Yale that has a few ‘questionable’ (ahem) alumni. Secret lives, perhaps? viget on November 30, 2022 at 5:26 pm My thoughts exactly. Any Yalies known to be PB? Elmer is Yale law. Maybe a nod to a chat that included leadership of other militias as well???? viget on November 30, 2022 at 5:33 pm Sorry..I cannot resist this: Hey Elmer! Check the locks! You’re not at Yale, you’re in jail!!!! Except the real saying goes the other way. 😉 Rugger_9 on December 1, 2022 at 12:00 am Elmer’s a ‘man of the people’ just like Tucker Carlson! Who knew! pdaly on November 30, 2022 at 10:40 pm Post Jan6, Alex Jones via InfoWars was bringing (negative?) attention to Yale’s Skull & Bones (March 2021). https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/03/23/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-visits-yale-skull-and-bones-2/ Rugger_9 on December 1, 2022 at 12:02 am Alex, it may not be the best idea to alienate the organization that might have the most judges on the bench. If you’re really unlucky one will be deciding if you have to pay up or stop you from burying your assets into shell companies. Fraud Guy on December 1, 2022 at 12:52 am I thought the organization with the most judges on the bench was [checks notes] The Federalist Society? Rugger_9 on December 1, 2022 at 12:01 pm Lots of overlap, and FedSoc judges are a more recent development when Rs run things. You’re probably right, though. gmoke on December 1, 2022 at 12:36 pm I thought the Yale Skull and Bones was most famous for staffing the CIA. earlofhuntingdon on December 1, 2022 at 5:06 pm Managing the Company is only one of its hobbies. Ginevra diBenci on December 2, 2022 at 12:15 pm The US presidency being another. Clare Kelly on November 30, 2022 at 4:55 pm Thank you, as always. I did not, but should have anticipated my yard-critter-startling snort laugh with: “ …behavior of those who were insufficiently insouciant while rioting.” Kathy B on December 1, 2022 at 1:07 pm When I read that line a falling souffle came to mind. Not a fan of Oathkeepers, Proud Boys or Bundys or the like. They made too many death threats (including actual endangerment) to friends of mine over the last 40 years, with significant egging on from GOP officials in Idaho, Oregon and Nevada. Ryan on November 30, 2022 at 11:49 pm Ochs and Nordean texting and then exchanging cell numbers seems to imply one or both had more than one cell? Might this mean that while “Nordean’s phone was not operational during the riot,” that he had another that was? Rugger_9 on November 30, 2022 at 11:54 pm I’d be surprised if everything wasn’t on burner phones. I’d also be unsurprised to find out NSA had the show under surveillance because of the ballyhooed ‘ANTIFA’ involvement that didn’t happen. It’s not like NSA has scruples in this regard, so some unintentional data collection could be found. Also, if burners were used, someone had to keep the number list organized, like perhaps Tarrio or Stone. Both of them were ostentatiously not in the Capitol area during the riot on J6 but heavily involved in the planning one way or another. Anna da Milano on December 2, 2022 at 1:49 am Ooh, hadn’t thought of that. If the NSA was expecting trouble, it could (1) have the cell phone companies do tower dumps, which have to be done in real time because towers don’t keep the data, and (2) capture data from the Capitol’s WiFi network. You can turn off location tracking on your Google maps app, but you can’t defend against (1) and (2) except by turning the phone off. And the DOJ could claim this data was “geofencing.” Rayne: have updated name from “Anne” to >8 letters. earlofhuntingdon on December 1, 2022 at 5:24 pm Congress agreeing on a forced rail deal that excludes the seven sick days it granted earlier to all other federal contractors is not much of a win. But it demonstrates the GOP’s power and determination to force Biden and the Democrats to choose sides between the economy, labor, and capital. Willis Warren on December 2, 2022 at 8:30 pm These morons thought SCOTUS was going to reverse the election? How could anyone be this dumb?

Skull and Bones: The Proud Boys' Non-Conspiratorial Secret Society? - emptywheel