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Project Camelot | Ralph Ring and Otis Carr

Project Camelot is privileged to have been introduced to Ralph Ring, a gifted intuitive technician who in the late 1950s and early 1960s worked closely with Otis T. Carr, a protegé of the great inventor Nikola Tesla. Prior to meeting Carr, Ralph had helped the famous French oceanographer Jacques Cousteau develop the aqualung, and had then spent a period working with a government-funded research organization called Advanced Kinetics. Bill Ryan talked with Ralph for over twelve hours on their first meeting, in March 2006. He was genial, charismatic, gentle, compelling, and sprightly for his 71 years. The story he told was captivating.

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Project Camelot | Ralph Ring and Otis Carr
Project Camelot is privileged to have been introduced to Ralph Ring, a gifted intuitive technician who in the late 1950s and early 1960s worked closely with Otis T. Carr, a protegé of the great inventor Nikola Tesla. Prior to meeting Carr, Ralph had helped the famous French oceanographer Jacques Cousteau develop the aqualung, and had then spent a period working with a government-funded research organization called Advanced Kinetics. Bill Ryan talked with Ralph for over twelve hours on their first meeting, in March 2006. He was genial, charismatic, gentle, compelling, and sprightly for his 71 years. The story he told was captivating.In essence, the account is as follows. Carr and a small group of engineers and technicians, one of whom was Ralph, built a flying disk, powered by rotating electromagnets in conjunction with a number of small, ingenious capacitor-like devices called "Utrons". A number of prototypes were built, ranging in size from experimental models a few feet across to a passenger-carrying craft which was fully 45 feet in diameter. The smaller disks flew successfully – one even disappeared completely and was permanently lost – and Ralph himself testifies to having co-piloted, with two others, the large craft a distance of some ten miles, traversing this distance instantaneously. Carr was seriously intent on taking his craft to the moon. However, two weeks after Ralph's dramatic experience, their laboratory was forcibly shut down by government agents and all files and documentation were confiscated. The group was forced to disband, and the project was never completed. Dismayed and frustrated, Ralph later bought some land in Arizona where he built a futuristic disk-shaped home which he said was astonishingly energy-efficient and, he later realized, decades ahead of its time.Carr's work has been recorded in several places, but the details are relatively scant. One highly respected physicist, researching alternative energy systems with the backing of a substantial organization, told Bill Ryan that he "had never investigated Otis Carr because his claims just seemed too outlandish." But few researchers are aware that one of the team of Carr's engineers is still alive. Project Camelot is proud to tell Ralph Ring's story, and will be releasing a video interview with him within the next few weeks. When recalling the heady events of the late 1950s working day and night with Carr, Ring again and again stressed that the key was working with nature. "Resonance", he would emphasize repeatedly. "You have to work with nature, not against her." He described how when the model disks were powered up and reached a particular rotational speed, "...the metal turned to Jell-o. You could push your finger right into it. It ceased to be solid. It turned into another form of matter, which was as if it was not entirely here in this reality. That's the only way I can attempt to describe it. It was uncanny, one of the weirdest sensations I've ever felt." What was it like working with Carr? "He was an unquestioned genius. Tesla had recognized his quality immediately and had taught him everything he knew. He was inspired, and – like Tesla – seemed to know exactly what to do to get something to work. He was a private man and was also very metaphysical in his thinking. I think the fact that he was not formally trained in physics helped him. He was not constrained by any preconceived ideas. As crazy as it sounds now, he was determined to fly to the moon and really believed it could be done. I believed it. We all did."Did the craft fly? "Fly is not the right word. It traversed distance. It seemed to take no time. I was with two other engineers when we piloted the 45' craft about ten miles. I thought it hadn't moved – I thought it had failed. I was completely astonished when we realized that we had returned with samples of rocks and plants from our destination. It was a dramatic success. It was more like a kind of teleportation."What's more, time was distorted somehow. We felt we were in the craft about fifteen or twenty minutes. We were told afterwards that we'd been carefully timed as having been in the craft no longer than three or four minutes. I still have no complete idea how it worked. We just built it exactly according to Carr's instructions. Everything had to be perfect... it all had to be just so, or it he said it would not work: a kind of symbiotic state between man and machine. "The Utron was the key to it all. Carr said it accumulated energy because of its shape, and focused it, and also responded to our conscious intentions. When we operated the machine, we didn't work any controls. We went into a kind of meditative state and all three of us focused our intentions on the effect we wanted to achieve. It sounds ridiculous, I know. But that's what we did, and that's what worked. Carr had tapped into some principle which is not understood, in which consciousness melds with engineering to create an effect. You can't write that into equations. I have no idea how he knew it would work. But it did."I've lost count of the number of people who have refused to believe what happened. I no longer talk about it. It's no fun being laughed at and ridiculed. But I've described it exactly as it occurred. One day someone will build the disk just as we did and they'll have the same experience. All his blueprints still exist. Nowadays, it would all be done with digital and solid state circuitry - no moving parts would be necessary."I've heard that the aliens use the same principle to operate their craft. Their physics seems to work in harness with their consciousness. The craft amplifies the power of their minds. Their craft won't operate without the pilots. I've heard that's why we can't operate their craft – or, at any rate, we can't operate them the way they do. We're just not adept enough mentally and spiritually. So there are two secrets to making the saucers work. One is the advanced engineering, and the other is the mental and spiritual ability. We may have duplicated some of the first, but we may be a long way from the second yet."Bill Ryan left Ralph having promised to get the information into the hands of someone who could understand and then duplicate the dramatic experiments conducted by Carr and his team. Ralph and Bill Ryan had agreed to work together to see the project through to its reality. Shortly afterwards, Ralph went into hospital for a routine knee replacement operation. He accidentally received the wrong treatment, and nearly died three times. At the time of writing (July 2006) he has just recently emerged, very frail, from intensive care - but is determined to tell his story. Prior to that he had enjoyed perfect health for 71 years. This is exactly what Project Camelot is for. _____________________________ Material about Otis Carr currently in the public domain: LJ ("Long John" Nebel): According to the schedule here the delivered price payable in full on delivery, with no prior commitments required, and including all poolings, and other overhead is 20 million dollars. Additional identical units are on the same schedule for 4 million dollars each. That's a lot of money! My name is Long John and we call this "the Party Line". I imagine you wonder what I'm talking about for 20 million dollars. Well, I've had a few sponsors and we've sold a few things, but I don't have O.T.C. Enterprises Inc. of Baltimore, Maryland as sponsor but they do have something to sell. Mainly, a circular foil spacecraft that is available for 20 million dollars. We have talked about flying saucers on the program many times. But tonight it appears to me we have two very solid citizens who represent O.T.C. Enterprises and according to all of the brochures, all of the booklets, everything we have in front of us and believe me we have a stack of things in front of us, including miniature working models, and with all of this material. I'm led to believe these men and believe that there is something to flying saucers. Oklahoma County attorney William Berry (left), Otis T. Carr (center), and Hubert Gibson, Carr's attorney (right) And the men that I'm referring to are Otis. T. Carr, President and Norman Evans Colton, Director of Sales Engineering. These gentlemen are associated with O.T.C. Enterprises, and we'll be talking with them tonight about the possibility of making a craft that can go to Venus, that can go to the Moon, that can go to Mars, that costs 20 million dollars. And after we have the first one the rest of them won't cost too much, about 4 million dollars each. We have with us this morning Ben I. and Mel Saloney. They will be doing a lot of talking with a lot of people and I hope that you might call some of your friends and neighbors and tell them that if they are interested in flying saucers, this is one night that they should be with us. Mr. Carr, some time ago one of our listeners sent me a brochure that was published by O.T.C. Enterprises. It's a very beautiful brochure; it's certainly a very inspiring one, and when I read this offer about a spacecraft that would be made available for 20 million dollars, I nearly flipped and I mentioned it on the air, and evidently somebody contacted your Director of Sales Engineering, Mr. Colton and he contacted us and that's why you're here this morning. Before we talk about the particular space craft that you intend to manufacture, I would like to ask you a couple of questions. One; Do you believe in the possibility of flying saucers coming to this planet, the planet Earth, from other planets? OTC (Otis T. Carr): We believe that there are unidentified electrified objects in the air. We have seen three on three separate occasions. LJ: Do you say you've seen three, Mr. Carr? Did you see them in the air? Were they hovering above a particular location? OTC: In the air, they were going at great velocity and they were definitely electrified because we have been working on the same principle for many years and we recognize what we saw. LJ: Well when you say electrified, what other type, if we may use the word saucers this morning because many of our listeners understand that, what other type of saucers could there be other than electrified, could there be gas driven or something, Sir? OTC: There could be if we followed principles now known within our atmosphere. There are many manners in which a circular craft could be used, such as the helo principal and jets on the area close to the foil, the leading edge. But in the incidents of the three different ones which we saw in 1951 and 1952 they were definitely electrical and they were very close to what we had already designed. LJ: Did you say the 'Helo' system? OTC: That's right. Well any system of circular rotation that can use a motive power such as jet propulsion would make an airborne craft. LJ: In what way is your invention different from the unidentified flying objects which you have seen? OTC: We do not know, naturally not having been able to examine the objects we saw due to the great velocity, we can't say with certainty that they are similar to ours, but the principle we feel is the same. Our design utilizes gravity, electromagnetism, and electromotive force and a relative field to get its functional operation. LJ: I haven't understood a single word of your last sentence. Without getting at all technical could you sort of make it a little bit easier? OTC: We use this statement that we use an electrified sender. It's a central power core. Now this is what we call an 'accumulator.' In a vernacular sense, it is a factory. It is a storage cell, an accumulation of storage cells which provide an electromotive force in the same manner that any known battery produces an electromotive force. Wayne Aho (left), and Otis T. Carr (second from left). The two men on the right are unknown. LJ: Is that what you are holding in your hand there? OTC: That's right. LJ: Can you describe it? OTC: This is a dimensional object. It was designed with the dimensions of space itself. We say it is truly the geometric form of space, because it is completely round and completely square. Now in this surface they are all round but when we show it this way the surfaces are square. It has been proven in scientific laboratories that the very smallest unit of mass matter ever photographed in the electron microscope are square in shape. This has only been found out in the last couple of months. We have known it for years and have applied this principle into an electrified system, which is the power core of our space vehicle. Now what makes this different and unique and novel from a battery is the fact that this is a piece of moving machinery that rotates. Our average storage battery is an inanimate object set in an inertial spot and then the electromotive force is conducted by wires from this battery to animate some object. LJ: Let me interrupt a moment, I'll try to describe it further. Well, it looks like two ice cream cones put together at the wide ends, but the angle is a lot wider than that of the ice cream cones. There are a series of ridges that look like gears would fit in. Is that correct? OTC: No, those are in a sense 'turbines principles'. They are 'reactive channels'. And where there is atmosphere a flow of air there aids rotation. LJ: Well then, is this one of the components of the drive, this is the battery? OTC: This is the central power core. LJ: This generates electricity? OTC: This is right. This is a storage cell for electrical energy. In operation it generates electricity at the same time it puts out electromotive force. This is the central power system for our space craft. LJ: I can tell this, that it opened up and it appears to be hollowed out on the inside, much, I would say....well it's circular, the inside, when the two parts are put one on top of the other and they fit into place, the cavity inside is circular. OTC: It is a sphere, yes. And each unit is a hemisphere. We call the center of this, this large dimension the equator and of course it contracts and expands to a point on each side. It's the union of two conical sections, that is what it is. Two right angle sections, and we say it is the dimensions of space and we have shown how this comes about. LJ: This is Tuesday morning October 29th, 1957....Here is a paragraph that you sent copies of your brochure outlining your system of propulsion that you have developed to President Eisenhower and the Cabinet and the Atomic Energy Commission. Have you received an answer from them? OTC: There was recognition of receiving the material. LJ: Beyond that did they give any value judgment on what you had to contribute? OTC: No, we have not received any value judgment. LJ: Don't you think that is a little odd? OTC: Yes, I do. LJ: Is there any way that you can explain it? OTC: I have my own ideas about this. Of course no way to substantiate such ideas. To give my own personal opinion, we have a truly safe vehicle which is not expendable, it does not burn up its energy in a few seconds, it carries the energy with it, it can leave the earth's atmosphere and return man, it also can be used within the atmosphere. It can make a trip as easily as other aerial transportation systems from here to Baltimore or from here to the moon. Now it is inexpensive, it certainly doesn't cost as much as the systems of the expanding rocket. The fueling is much less expensive and whether or not our offer is entering into an economic picture that is not feasible at this time, we don't know. This is one of our opinions. Ben: Mr. Carr. I've been glancing at the literature that you provided us with. I've been going over it and there is a mathematical formula that crops up here that intrigues me, minus zero divided by plus zero equals zero. The first time I ever saw a minus zero is in a mathematical equation in the work of Einstein. I wonder if you can tell me more about it and how you stumbled upon this idea. OTC: The equation is brought about by the shape of our Utron electrical accumulator, this is the name given to our central power system. In our operation of working models and in checking out experiments, we had to find the formula that fit the reason for the action and reaction we were getting. So in exploring nature and studying the great inspirational work of Dr. Einstein on relativity, we came upon this formula of linear correlation. And when we study linear correlation in geometric form, we have to have a starting point and this is the point. And from there it expands through the cross and through the circle. And the mathematics, the only way we can express it, is in the symbolism of zero X (or 0x) and this formula brings us to that. We claim that this is the true unified field theory in physical practice. Ben: The thing I wonder about....is how you were led to the concept of a minus 0. OTC: In a further study of Dr. Einstein's great inspirational work and we corresponded with him and we had the great good fortune of being advised by him at one time, we learned that all measurements of time and space had to be considered in relationship to the observer and therefore there never was a fixed equation, due to the observer being an attempt, as I understand it, the observer himself being somewhat the minus factor and therefore you can't have any fixed quantity of any number. Now in physical form, this is something else again. We worked for a considerable time with and had many conferences with the great Nikola Tesla and his evaluation of the sine wave and electrical principles and the true value of alternating current and hydro-electric systems were developed by the great genius of this man. Further inspirations came to us and finally from this knowledge and continuing to seek we found this formula. Ben: Did you find this formula, Mr. Carr? OTC: I found it with the assistance of Mr. Colton in the evaluation. Mr. Colton researches very heavily in all the work that I do and we collaborate very closely. Also Mr. Shea collaborates with me in research. LJ: Mr. Carr, when was O.T.C. incorporated? OTC: ...1955. LJ: And how long prior to the year 1955 were you associated with Mr. Shea and Mr. Colton? OTC: Not before that, they have come with me since then. LJ: Were you interested in this before 1955? OTC: We started, I use the editorial 'we', this development in 1937. Our investigations began in 1937. We were actively making models in 1938. In 1942 we had come up with the basic principles. LJ: In other words, 18 years prior to this year you had in your mind that possibly some type of craft could be developed that you could go into space with? Is that right? OTC: This is true. LJ: Do you hope with this craft, if you are able to manufacture it, that you can go to other planets with it? OTC: Escaping from the immediate gravity pull of the earth plus the heavy atmosphere of the earth enables us, just as our satellites are doing now, to join a universal free energy system. They have a velocity now of 18,000 miles per hour, more or less, without any expenditure of energy whatsoever. Now any energy attached to this would immediately throw them into a higher velocity orbit which would expand them further into space...This is extremely easy to do. We feel that our craft will gradually escape and possibly escape the atmosphere of the earth and then we can handle velocities almost unimaginable in reaching other gravity systems and the moon should not be more than five hours away. LJ: Five hours away from Baltimore, Maryland. OTC: That's right. LJ: How many people can you have in this craft? OTC: The one we have on the design board which is 45 feet in diameter, the cabin would accommodate three to be comfortable. LJ: And with type of equipment will you have on board of this craft? OTC: On this craft, insofar as the individuals are concerned, can travel the same as in a pressurized airliner. We don't have the problem of a heat shield. LJ: What about high velocity? OTC:

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